{"id":1539,"date":"2024-02-10T19:48:14","date_gmt":"2024-02-10T19:48:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=1539"},"modified":"2025-10-21T15:45:23","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T15:45:23","slug":"impresii-din-interviul-lui-tucker-cu-putin-opinia-lui-chiazna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=1539","title":{"rendered":"Impresii din interviul lui Tucker cu Putin. Opinia lui Chiazna"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Un articol publicat de G. Chiazna ini\u021bial pe <a href=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/2024\/02\/impresii-din-interviul-lui-tucker-cu-putin\/\">Chiazna.ro<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Putin a recunoscut c\u0103 dac\u0103 vestul va oprit livrarea de arme Ucrainei, \u00een dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni r\u0103zboiul este gata. O asemenea de declara\u0163ie, de\u015fi pare component\u0103 a propagandei sau, mai bine zis, a narativului rusesc c\u0103 vestul trebuie s\u0103 nu mai dea arme Ucrainei, are unele implica\u0163ii logice nasoale pentru ru\u015fi. Evident c\u0103 pu\u0163ini fac aceste deduceri despre care voi vorbi eu \u015fi declara\u0163ia este un buchet de mesaje multiple cu targeturi variate.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, ca o observa\u0163ie general\u0103, oric\u00e2t de \u015firet este \u015fi oric\u00e2t de experimentat, Putin nu are cum s\u0103 nu gre\u0219easc\u0103 la <a href=\"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=1532\">un interviu de peste o or\u0103<\/a>. Dar totul este calcul beneficiu-risc \u015fi chiar dac\u0103 orice asemenea experien\u021b\u0103 prezint\u0103 unele riscuri, beneficiile sunt mai multe deoarece contribuie la consolidarea narativului. De aceea exist\u0103 \u015fi atacul asupra lui Tucker, deoarece, evident, orice discu\u0163ie cu Putin prezinz\u0103 un risc existen\u0163ial pentru narativul vestului.<\/p>\n<p>Dar r\u0103zboiul nu este doar \u00eentre narative, de\u015fi narativele cumva determin\u0103 dac\u0103 sprijinul militar va continua sau nu, sau cel pu\u0163in a\u015fa cred naivii care \u00eenc\u0103 mai sunt \u00eemb\u0103ta\u0163i de iluzia c\u0103 \u00een vest democra\u0163ia conduce \u015fi dac\u0103 poporul nu mai vrea r\u0103zboi \u015fi voteaz\u0103 na\u0163ionali\u015fti, politica statului se va schimba. Dar de unde!<\/p>\n<p>A\u015fadar DAC\u0102 VESTUL OPRE\u015eTE LIVRAREA DE ARME UCRAINA PIERDE IN 2 S\u0102PT\u0102M\u00c2NI! Oric\u00e2t de solid ar fi construit narativul ru\u015filor \u015fi strategia lor de a deturna sprijinul european, eu cred c\u0103 aceast\u0103 afirma\u0163ie implic\u0103 de fapt recunoa\u015fterea sl\u0103biciunii Rusiei \u015fi are mai degrab\u0103 rol de a \u00eencuraja livrarea de arme. Deci dac\u0103 Ucraina acum, cu toat\u0103 t\u00e2nguiala european\u0103, cu am\u00e2n\u0103rile americanilor, face fa\u0163\u0103 ru\u015filor (c\u00e2t poate) \u015fi dac\u0103 Putin zice c\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 arme din vest, ar pica \u00een dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u015fi c\u0103 dac\u0103 vestul ar dubla ajutorul, e posibil ca ru\u015fii s\u0103 aib\u0103 probleme.<\/p>\n<p>Ditamai putere militar\u0103, cu preten\u0163ii de a fi unul dintre multipolurile lumii, poate fi \u00eenfr\u00e2nt\u0103 de Ucraina dac\u0103 vestul m\u0103re\u015fte contribu\u0163ia de la 0.1 din PIB la 0.2 din PIB. Cifrele sunt aproximative, poate nu sunt 0.1 ci 1, sau poate mai mari. Ideea este c\u0103, totu\u015fi, efortul de r\u0103zboi pentru vest este infim cu ce ar \u00eensemna o implicare \u00een r\u0103zboi direct\u0103. Nici m\u0103car Ucraina nu e implicat\u0103 \u00een r\u0103zboi complet deoarece nici m\u0103car nu a declarat mobilizarea. \u00cen plus, deoarece nu a declarat starea de r\u0103zboi, fabricile care \u00eenc\u0103 produc pantofi nu pot fi na\u0163ionalizate \u015fi toat\u0103 produc\u0163ia, dat\u0103 la armat\u0103, cum ar fi firesc. Idem pentru fabricile de ma\u015fini care, \u00een loc s\u0103 fac\u0103 tancuri, fac \u00een continuare alte vehicule deoarece Ucraina vrea s\u0103 adere la UE \u015fi are nevoie de o economie func\u0163ional\u0103. Pe c\u00e2nd, dac\u0103 ar declara r\u0103zboi, statul ar putea na\u0163ionaliza \u00eentreaga produc\u0163ie \u015fi totul ar fi dus c\u0103tre armat\u0103. Acum, statul cump\u0103r\u0103 la pre\u0163uri de 10 ori mai mari aceste produse de la companiile private de\u0163inute, evident, de camarila politic\u0103, ca \u015fi pe la noi. Halal rezisten\u0163\u0103 ucrainean\u0103, halal sprijin al vestului! De ce oare nu condi\u0163ioneaz\u0103 vestul ca m\u0103car Ucraina, dac\u0103 vrea arme, s\u0103 mobilizeze popula\u0163ia?<\/p>\n<p>Deci Rusia e slab\u0103 deoarece nu poate bate Ucraina deoarece aceasta prime\u015fte arme din vest. Cam asta las\u0103 s\u0103 se \u00een\u0163eleag\u0103 Putin prin aceast\u0103 declara\u0163ie.<\/p>\n<p>\u015ei, ca \u015fi cum nu ar fi de ajuns, a mai \u015fi recunoscut c\u0103 Nord Stream 2 a fost distrus de americani. P\u0103i cum a\u015fa, tovar\u0103\u015fe? Ditamai Rusie, putere multipolar\u0103, permite s\u0103 fie lovit\u0103 sub centur\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 represalii? Dup\u0103 dobor\u00e2rea avionului rus de c\u0103tre turci, s-au g\u0103sit unele represalii economice, acum Rusia de ce nu taie m\u0103car combustibilul pentru reactoarele nucleare americane, care \u00eenc\u0103 vine de la ru\u015fi, deoarece americanii nu au alternativ\u0103 la acela\u015fi pre\u0163?<\/p>\n<p>V\u0103 spun eu de ce Rusia nu a retaliat: deoarece, pe c\u00e2t de na\u0163ionalist pare, \u015fi Putin este un pap\u0103-lapte \u015fi un tr\u0103d\u0103tor de \u0163ar\u0103, prefer\u00e2nd negocieri, taton\u0103ri, manevre, \u201copera\u0163iuni\u201d. \u00censu\u015fi conceptul de \u201copera\u0163iune\u201d este o b\u0103taie de joc dac\u0103 accept\u0103m motiva\u0163iile \u015fi justificarea pe care o d\u0103 Putin. Dac\u0103 bombardarea poporului ucrainean se justific\u0103 din motivele de securitate expuse de Putin, p\u0103i atunci Rusia trebuia, frate, s\u0103 declare r\u0103zboi \u015fi s\u0103 fac\u0103 rapid mobilizare, s\u0103 na\u0163ionalizeze industria \u015fi s\u0103 fac\u0103 tot ce poate pentru a c\u00e2\u015ftiga. Cu bl\u00e2nde\u0163ea \u015fi ezit\u0103rile lui Putin, iat\u0103 c\u0103 vestul d\u0103 arme \u015fi, dac\u0103 dubleaz\u0103 armele, e posibil s\u0103 pun\u0103 probleme ru\u015filor, dac\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 acestea ucrainienii ar fi termina\u0163i \u00een dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni. De aceea eu cred c\u0103 Putin se compar\u0103 acum similar \u0163arului \u00een 1918, care se implica aiurea \u00een armat\u0103 \u015fi nu era un bun organizator. Apoi a venit revolu\u0163ia \u015fi ce a urmat, toat\u0103 furia ruseasc\u0103 desc\u0103rcat\u0103 \u00eenspre vest. La fel va fi \u015fi acum, eventuala pace temporar\u0103 va duce la dispari\u0163ia lui Putin fie prin m\u0103tr\u0103\u015fire, fie prin pensionare \u015fi cel care va veni \u00een locul lui, probabil Medvedev, va fi mult mai ferm \u015fi va ar\u0103ta ce pot ru\u015fii cu adev\u0103rat.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un articol publicat de G. Chiazna ini\u021bial pe Chiazna.ro Putin a recunoscut c\u0103 dac\u0103 vestul va oprit livrarea de arme Ucrainei, \u00een dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni r\u0103zboiul este gata. O asemenea de declara\u0163ie, de\u015fi pare component\u0103 a propagandei sau, mai bine zis, a narativului rusesc c\u0103 vestul trebuie s\u0103 nu mai dea arme Ucrainei, are unele implica\u0163ii [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":1540,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[270,32,290,4],"tags":[310,1056,196,1054,1055,105,174,214],"class_list":["post-1539","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-externe","category-opinii","category-politica","category-stil_de_viata","tag-chiazna-ro","tag-dimitri-medvedev","tag-gigel-chiazna","tag-mobilizare","tag-nord-stream-2","tag-razboi-ucraina","tag-tucker-carlson","tag-vladimir-putin"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Impresii din interviul lui Tucker cu Putin. 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