{"id":1699,"date":"2024-03-07T05:50:33","date_gmt":"2024-03-07T05:50:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=1699"},"modified":"2025-10-21T15:46:27","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T15:46:27","slug":"disonante-nord-atlantice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=1699","title":{"rendered":"DISONAN\u0162E NORD-ATLANTICE. Opinia lui Chiazna"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>Un articol publicat de G. Chiazna ini\u021bial pe <a href=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/2024\/03\/disonante-nord-atlantice\/\">Chiazna.ro<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Avem a\u015fadar apelul lui Macron, urmat de pozi\u0163ion\u0103rile care au urmat: Germania ferm \u00eempotriv\u0103, SUA \u00eempotriv\u0103, balticele pentru \u015fi mai nou, na\u0163ionalistul ceh \u00een UE, pre\u015fedinte pus de NATO \u00een Cehia pro.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-26465\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/cehia.png?resize=633%2C644&amp;ssl=1\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 633px) 100vw, 633px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/cehia.png?w=633&amp;ssl=1 633w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/cehia.png?resize=295%2C300&amp;ssl=1 295w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/cehia.png?resize=75%2C75&amp;ssl=1 75w\"  alt=\"cehia DISONAN\u0162E NORD-ATLANTICE. 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Au fost epuizate toate op\u0163iunile? Dup\u0103 cum \u015ftim, status-quo-ul ar fi c\u0103, fiind an de alegeri, ajutoarele c\u0103tre Ucraina sunt cam pe pauz\u0103. Exist\u0103 nenum\u0103rate apeluri la ajutorare, at\u00e2t din\u0103untru c\u00e2t \u015fi din afar\u0103. Cum grosul ajutorului era dus \u00een spate de SUA \u015fi cum Israel este de departe darlingul Imperiului \u015fi inima pentru care americanii (evrei) vor lupta p\u00e2n\u0103 la moarte chiar \u015fi c\u00e2nd Congresul va fi un morman de moluz (citat aproximativ dintr-un lider democrat), este de \u00een\u0163eles de ce Imperiul nu mai are bani s\u0103 dea Ucrainei, de\u015fi Israel are de luptat doar pe o f\u00e2\u015fie de 30km, dar problema este c\u0103 se preg\u0103te\u015fte de invazia Siriei, prin urmare e nevoie de bani pentru cump\u0103rat de toate. Mai punem \u015fi alegerile colac peste pup\u0103z\u0103 \u015fi \u00een\u0163elegem de ce pomparea de dolari a \u00eencetinit.<\/p>\n<p>Pentru cine a avut urechi ascu\u0163ite legate de topicul ajutorului militar pentru Ucraina, unele voci mai difuze men\u0163ionau nu at\u00e2t lipsa banilor, c\u00e2t lipsa armelor care s\u0103 fie cump\u0103rate cu ace\u015fti bani. Existau la un moment dat unele calcule, legate de cu c\u00e2t la sut\u0103 ar trebui industria militar\u0103 vestic\u0103 s\u0103 produc\u0103 mai multe obuze pentru a alimenta ritmul de tragere folosit de ucrainieni. Europenii au dat tot junkul pe care \u00eel aveau, minionii baltici au dat tot nimicul lor deoarece evident dac\u0103 trec de Ucraina, urmeaz\u0103 ei, iar puterile centrale din Europa evident \u00ee\u015fi p\u0103streaz\u0103 armele pentru ei.<\/p>\n<p>Este strig\u0103toare la cer ipocrizia cu care Macron cere trimiterea de trupe, dar nu este dispus s\u0103 ofere ucrainienilor piese de artilerie modern\u0103 cu performan\u0163e extraordinare (cel pu\u0163in pe cifre) care ar avea \u015fanse s\u0103 loveasc\u0103 puternic \u00een artileria ru\u015filor care este de fapt cheia succesului avansuluil lor. Dac\u0103 folosind piese sovietice de artilerile, ghidate de drone, ucrainienii au putut s\u0103 loveasc\u0103 tancuri ruse\u015fti de la zeci de km distan\u0163\u0103, v\u0103 imagina\u0163i ce ar putea face cu noile Mistral-uri sau Caesar-uri fran\u0163uze\u015fti care pe cifre, pot lovit ru\u015fii de la departare, cu precizie \u015fi cu o rat\u0103 de foc mult peste ce pot sau au ar\u0103tat ru\u015fii. Chiar din dot\u0103rile actuale ale armatei franceze, cu piese vechi care oricum vor fi \u00eenlocuite cur\u00e2nd, doar un mic procent a fost dat Ucrainei.<\/p>\n<p>Deci dac\u0103 pe partea de aprovizionare cu armament Fran\u0163a \u00eenc\u0103 a f\u0103cut 2-3% din ce putea, de ce face Macron apel la trimiterea de trupe cu care s\u0103 ri\u015fte un r\u0103zboi nuclear? Este clar c\u0103 \u201ctoleran\u0163a strategic\u0103\u201d va fi \u00eentins\u0103 la maxim \u00een cazul trimiterii de trupe, chiar dac\u0103 acestea vor fi folosite de exemplu doar pentru protejarea grani\u0163ei cu Belarusul pentru a degreva de sarcini resursele umane \u015fi logistice ale ucrainienilor \u015fi a le trimite \u00een est.<\/p>\n<p>Este clar \u015fi pentru ucrainieni \u015fi pentru anali\u015ftii militari, c\u0103 Ucraina nu are doar problema uman\u0103, faptul c\u0103 au mul\u0163i mor\u0163i, dar mai ales problema echipamentelor \u015fi a muni\u0163iei. Ru\u015fii au avut mereu puterea num\u0103rului de partea lor, dar atunci c\u00e2nd superioritatea tehnic\u0103 a vestului conta, chiar \u015fi un raport de 1 vestic la 2 ru\u015fi putea s\u0103 dea rezultate. Este adev\u0103rat c\u0103 \u00een istorie, mai ales nem\u0163ii puteau bate ru\u015fii cu un asemenea raport, dar cu c\u00e2t diferen\u0163a tehnologic\u0103 e mai mare \u015fi de asemenea muni\u0163ia, cu at\u00e2t num\u0103rul oamenilor este mai pu\u0163in important. Evident se pune \u015fi problema specializ\u0103rii solda\u0163ilor ucrainieni, care nu vor putea din start s\u0103 foloseasc\u0103 de exemplu avioane din vest, care de asemenea sunt o etap\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 neabordat\u0103 a ajutorului poten\u0163ial pe care vestul l-ar putea face \u00eenainte de escaladarea la trimiterea de trupe.<\/p>\n<p>A\u015f face aici o mic\u0103 parantez\u0103 legat\u0103 de terminologia r\u0103zbelului \u00een prezent. Peste tot \u00een presa oficial\u0103 s-a folosit acest termen:\u00a0<strong>TRIMITEREA DE TRUPE<\/strong>. Evident c\u0103 este o narativ fals deoarece\u00a0<em>de facto<\/em>, trimiterea de trupe \u00eenseamn\u0103\u00a0<strong>R\u0102ZBOI CU RUSIA<\/strong>. Adic\u0103 nu po\u0163i trimite trupe s\u0103 lupte cu ru\u015fii, chiar dac\u0103 vor sta\u0163iona la grani\u0163a cu Belarusul, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 declari r\u0103zboi Rusiei. Rusia a declarat de nenum\u0103rate ori c\u0103 garanteaz\u0103 protec\u0163ia Belarusului \u015fi chiar dac\u0103 cel pu\u0163in la nivel de declara\u0163ii, teoretic doar Donbassul \u015fi Luganskul sunt acum teritorii ruse\u015fti (cu Crimeea, evident), e la mintea coco\u015fului c\u0103 a trimite trupe Ucrainei este declara\u0163ie de r\u0103zboi at\u00e2t Belarusului c\u00e2t \u015fi Rusiei. Rusia va fi nevoit\u0103 s\u0103 reac\u0163ioneze la aceast\u0103 m\u0103sur\u0103 prin nenum\u0103rate op\u0163iuni, fiind cumva \u00eentins\u0103 la maxim. Simplul fapt c\u0103 Rusia a \u00eencetat atacul din nord se datoreaz\u0103 limit\u0103rilor resurselor, ori dac\u0103 europenii trimit trupe, chiar dac\u0103 vor sta\u0163iona \u00een partea de vest a Ucrainei \u015fi vor avea doar rol de ap\u0103rat grani\u0163a cu Belarusului, chiar credem c\u0103 Belarusul va sta calm \u015fi nu va ac\u0163iona? Sau ru\u015fii nu vor ataca aceste trupe? \u015ei dac\u0103 aceste trupe vor fi nimicite de rachetele supersonice care au distrus primul contingent de voluntari str\u0103ini g\u0103zduit la unul dintre centrele unde anterior de r\u0103zboi ofi\u0163eri NATO preg\u0103teau solda\u0163ii ucrainieni, cum putem spera c\u0103 trimiterea de trupe este altceva dec\u00e2t r\u0103zboiul direct?<\/p>\n<p>E la mintea coco\u015fului c\u0103 trimiterea de trupe nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 doar trimiterea de solda\u0163i sau de consultan\u0163i, ci cu trupele vesticii vor trimite \u015fi tancuri, \u015fi artilerie, \u015fi avioane etc, deoarece dac\u0103 le trimit, vor s\u0103 fac\u0103 treab\u0103 bun\u0103 \u015fi ca s\u0103 fac\u0103 treab\u0103 bun\u0103, trebuie s\u0103 aib\u0103 tot ce trebuie. De fapt, dac\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim bine, nu avem nicio garan\u0163ie c\u0103 o dat\u0103 cu acele trupe, vestul va trimite \u015fi nucleare \u00een coasta ru\u015filor, care este motivul ini\u0163ial al acestui r\u0103zboi. V\u0103 imagina\u0163i deci poten\u0163ialul de escaladare?<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen discursul lui Macron \u015fi \u00een propaganda oficial\u0103 care evident este pro-r\u0103zboi, chiar dac\u0103 exist\u0103 voci timide de delimitare din partea lui Olaf sau a americanilor, se las\u0103 cumva \u00een aer am\u0103nuntele legate de detaliile concrete ale \u201ctrimiterii de trupe\u201d \u015fi se minimizeaz\u0103 inten\u0163ionat riscurile, pomp\u00e2nd pe ideea c\u0103 Putin de doar o sperietoare care amenin\u0163\u0103 cu nucleara. Fenomenul acesta se repet\u0103 cumva peste ani, deoarece \u015fi \u00eenainte de invazie ni se spunea c\u0103 Putin amenin\u0163\u0103 Ucraina dar nu va ataca niciodat\u0103. Realitatea bate propaganda, dar propoaganda \u015fi mar\u015ful antihristic c\u0103tre distrugerea umanit\u0103\u0163ii merge \u00een continuare \u00eenainte. C\u00e2t\u0103 vreme rom\u00e2nii vor vota coali\u0163ie sau patrio\u0163i \u00een NATO, Rom\u00e2nia va participa \u015fi ea la acest r\u0103zboi \u015fi \u00ee\u015fi va asuma riscurile existen\u0163iale evidente despre care am tot discutat.<\/p>\n<p>P\u0103rerea mea este c\u0103 Macron nu face acest apel de capul lui ci este cumva v\u00e2rful de lance al Deep Stateu-lui Imperial care \u00eencearc\u0103 \u015fi accelereaz\u0103 un r\u0103zboi nuclear cu Rusia, a\u015fa cum am zis \u00eentr-un articol \u00eenc\u0103 de la \u00eenceputul r\u0103zboiului:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/2022\/03\/geostrategic-un-razboi-rusia-ue-este-interesul-maxim-al-sua\/\">GEOSTRATEGIC, UN R\u0102ZBOI RUSIA-UE ESTE INTERESUL MAXIM AL SUA<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>text preluat cu binecuv\u00e2ntarea autorului de la chiazna.ro<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un articol publicat de G. Chiazna ini\u021bial pe Chiazna.ro Avem a\u015fadar apelul lui Macron, urmat de pozi\u0163ion\u0103rile care au urmat: Germania ferm \u00eempotriv\u0103, SUA \u00eempotriv\u0103, balticele pentru \u015fi mai nou, na\u0163ionalistul ceh \u00een UE, pre\u015fedinte pus de NATO \u00een Cehia pro. De ce anume s-a trezit acum Macron s\u0103 fac\u0103 apel la trimis de trupe? 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