{"id":2302,"date":"2024-06-25T16:48:24","date_gmt":"2024-06-25T16:48:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=2302"},"modified":"2025-10-21T15:49:06","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T15:49:06","slug":"raspunsul-rusiei-la-atacul-cu-atacms-din-sevastopol-opinia-lui-chiazna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roexit.info\/?p=2302","title":{"rendered":"R\u0103spunsul Rusiei la atacul cu ATACMS din Sevastopol. Opinia lui Chiazna"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Un articol publicat de G. Chiazna ini\u021bial pe <a href=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/2024\/06\/raspunsul-rusiei-la-atacul-cu-atacms-din-sevastopol\/\">Chiazna.ro<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p>Rusia acuz\u0103 deja oficial SUA pentru atac. Ru\u015fii <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/news\/2024\/6\/24\/russia-summons-us-ambassador-over-barbaric-missile-strike\">au chemat-o pe ambasadoare<\/a> \u015fi au asigurat-o c\u0103 va urma un r\u0103spuns al acestui atac. R\u0103spuns \u00eempotriva SUA. Dar sta\u0163i calmi, \u00eenc\u0103 nu vor da cu nucleare.<\/p>\n<p>Din articolul referit mai sus, putem extrage din comunicatul ru\u015filor c\u0103 acuz\u0103 SUA c\u0103 face un r\u0103zboi prin proxy cu Rusia. Totodat\u0103, Peskov, purt\u0103torul de cuv\u00e2nt al Kremlinului, a f\u0103cut referire la declara\u0163iile lui Putin c\u0103 Rusia va \u00eenarma \u0163\u0103ri inamice Vestului care pot s\u0103 loveasc\u0103 \u0163inte ale Vestului. Termenul \u00een englez\u0103 este \u201cwestern targets\u201d. \u00cen general, percep\u0163ia mea e c\u0103 ru\u015fii dac\u0103 vor s\u0103 se refere la americani, zic americani, dac\u0103 vor s\u0103 se refere la Vest, zic Vest. Deci <em>western targets<\/em> \u00eenseamn\u0103, probabil, <em>obiective vestice<\/em>. Este ciudat, deoarece vina e direc\u0163ionat\u0103 c\u0103tre americani, deci firesc ar fi s\u0103 zic\u0103 c\u0103 ru\u015fii vor \u00eenarma \u0163\u0103ri care pot s\u0103 loveasc\u0103 \u0163inte americane. Dar ru\u015fii nu doresc escaladare, de aceea sunt foarte aten\u0163i cu amenin\u0163\u0103rile la adresa SUA pentru a nu st\u00e2rni o eventual\u0103 schimbare a trendului de deta\u015fare a publicului american fa\u0163\u0103 de r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina, prin prisma problemelor domestice legate de infla\u0163ie \u015fi criz\u0103 sau din cauza r\u0103zboiului Israelului cu palestinienii.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Luarea de pozi\u0163ie oficial\u0103 este obligatorie<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Trebuie din start s\u0103 subliniez c\u0103 ru\u015fii nu aveau de ales, ci trebuiau s\u0103 ia aceast\u0103 atitudine ferm\u0103, s\u0103 cheme ambasadorul, s\u0103 fac\u0103 scandal etc. Este \u00eens\u0103 o total\u0103 diferen\u0163\u0103 \u00eentre luarea unei atitutini \u015fi actul de r\u0103zbunare propriu-zis. Luarea atitudinii este necesar\u0103 pentru onoarea intern\u0103 \u015fi extern\u0103 a Rusiei.<\/p>\n<p><strong>R\u0103spunsul nu va fi explicit<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Principalul lucru pe care doresc s\u0103 \u00eel subliniez este c\u0103 r\u0103spunsul nu va fi unul explicit. Adic\u0103, ru\u015fii nu vor da de exemplu arme cubanezilor cu care ace\u015ftia s\u0103 loveasc\u0103 Miami \u015fi apoi, dup\u0103 lovitura cubanezilor, ru\u015fii s\u0103 declare: acesta a fost actul nostru de r\u0103zbunare pentru loviturile de pe plaja de la Sevastopol \u015fi celelalte. Nu a\u015fa se fac lucrurile.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Un mic told you so<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nu pentru a m\u0103 l\u0103uda, ci pentru a ar\u0103ta cu degetul la cei care \u00eenc\u0103 nu cred c\u0103 ce spunem aici, fiind gratuit, nefiind \u015ftiri oficiale pl\u0103tite de propaganda de partid, sunt analize la rece, ra\u0163ionale, simple, care prev\u0103d dinainte ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103, sunt din nou nevoit s\u0103 fac un mic memento.<\/p>\n<p>Pe 22 iunie, scriam:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>Totodat\u0103, Ucraina a primit acordul SUA \u015fi al Vestului s\u0103 loveasc\u0103 obiective \u00een Rusia. Cele mai pu\u0163in escaladatoare scenarii ar fi lovirea avioanelor care lanseaz\u0103 bombe \u015fi care zboar\u0103 \u00een Rusia. Dar eu cred c\u0103 <strong>se urm\u0103re\u015fte lovirea unor simboluri <\/strong>pentru a provoca \u015fi mai mult Rusia. Poate fi Kremlin-ul, poate fi un ora\u0219, poate fi un mall. Vom vedea ce pot, deoarece ru\u0219ii au \u015fi ei ap\u0103rare antiaerian\u0103.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><cite>Sursa: 22 IUNIE 2024 \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/2024\/06\/patrioate-si-patrioti-in-ue\/\">Patrioate \u015fi patrio\u0163i \u00een UE<\/a><\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00cen continuare \u00eemi men\u0163in pozi\u0163ia c\u0103 americanii nu mai vor s\u0103 bage nici un ban \u00een Ucraina, ci maxim ce mai \u00eencearc\u0103 acum este s\u0103 fermenteze o escaladare care s\u0103 \u00eel oblige p\u00e2n\u0103 \u015fi pe Trump s\u0103 continue r\u0103zboiul dup\u0103 ce va prelua puterea. Trump a amenin\u0163at c\u0103 va face pace \u015fi c\u0103 va cere Ucrainei s\u0103 cedeze teritoriile ocupate. Dup\u0103 cum \u015ftim din mandatul trecut, Trump e foarte preocupat de Israel, este mai prieten dec\u00e2t Biden \u015fi va dori s\u0103 se focuseze 100% pe Israel, de aceea Trump va dori s\u0103 rezolve rapid chestiunea Ucraina.<\/p>\n<p>Dar, dac\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la alegeri, r\u0103zboiul se va extinde, Trump nu va avea de ales. Astfel, Complexul Militar Industrial va avea contracte garantate pe ani buni de aici \u00eenainte. Vedem c\u0103 deja nu face fa\u0163\u0103 la cererea de arme doar cu Ucraina implicat\u0103. Imagina\u0163i-v\u0103 c\u00e2t ar cre\u015fte cererea de arme dac\u0103 Rom\u00e2nia sau Polonia intr\u0103 \u00een r\u0103zboi cu Rusia, de partea Ucrainei, pentru c\u0103 \u201cdac\u0103 bate pe ucraineni, Putin vine peste noi\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>R\u0103zboi asimetric<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Despre r\u0103zboiul asimetric am scris ultima dat\u0103 \u00een articolul <a href=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/2024\/01\/inainte-de-razboi-vor-face-poc-marile-fabrici\/\">\u00cenainte de r\u0103zboi vor face poc marile fabrici<\/a> de pe 17 Ianuarie 2024:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>Evident c\u0103 un laser din satelit poate produce un incendiu. Dar, oare, sunt marile puteri gata s\u0103 deschid\u0103 un asemenea front? Cumva, chestiunea e similar\u0103 nuclearelor, dac\u0103 \u00eencep s\u0103 foloseasc\u0103 lasere din sateli\u0163i pentru a produce incendii, se trece peste o limit\u0103 unde orice poate fi posibil, adic\u0103 nu doar incendiat fabrici, ci \u015fi incendiat hangare unde sunt parcate bombardierele nucleare. De aici, p\u00e2n\u0103 la r\u0103zboi nuclear, nu mai e mult.\u00a0<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Corela\u0163ie nu e cauzalitate<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u0103 \u00eendoiesc c\u0103 <a href=\"https:\/\/asia.nikkei.com\/Business\/Electronics\/Multiple-explosions-ravage-South-Korea-battery-plant-south-of-Seoul\">fabrica de baterii din Seul care a ars azi<\/a> ca un vulcan este opera ru\u015filor. Ar fi culmea s\u0103 fie vreo leg\u0103tur\u0103 \u00eentre depozitul de baterii din Sco\u0163ia care, de asemenea, a ars spectaculos&#8230;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"A series of explosions occurred in Scotland's largest city\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KOm9t6bYLKw?feature=oembed\" width=\"900\" height=\"506\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><strong>Op\u0163iunile Rusiei<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 unele atacuri mai deosebite din Ucraina, unde, \u00eens\u0103, nu vor putea transmite un semnal simbolic similar cu atacul despre care discut\u0103m \u00een acest articol, Rusia are mai multe variante. Una ar fi prin intermediul huti\u0163ilor din Yemen care, aproape o dat\u0103 la 2-3 zile, atac\u0103 o nav\u0103. Ba <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/geopolitical\/kamikaze-drone-attack-causes-damage-ship-red-sea\">una britanic\u0103<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/news\/2024\/6\/19\/greek-owned-tutor-believed-to-have-sunk-a-week-after-houthi-missile-attack\">ba una greceasc\u0103<\/a>, ba chiar un portavion. Dar cum atacurile sunt destul de dese \u015fi presa ignor\u0103, din nou efectul nu ar fi prea relevant. Chiar dac\u0103 aceste atacuri au triplat costurile de transport prin cre\u015fterea costului asigur\u0103rilor, presa prefer\u0103 s\u0103 ignore, deoarece e\u015fecul armatei SUA \u015fi al alia\u0163ilor de a-i descuraja pe huti\u0163i nu d\u0103 bine.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen afara Ucrainei, de departe cea mai interesant\u0103 variant\u0103 ar fi Siria. Aici Rusia poate s\u0103 permit\u0103 lui Assad s\u0103 foloseasc\u0103 \u015fi el ceva rachete \u00eempotriva bazelor americane sta\u0163ionate pe teritoriul Siriei. Nu zic de Israel, de\u015fi Rusia a tot amenin\u0163at c\u0103 nu va mai tolera incursiunile israelienilor care bombardeaz\u0103 aeroporturile sirienilor c\u00e2nd vor, f\u0103r\u0103 team\u0103 de represalii sau antiaeriene. Assad e o variant\u0103, dar Hezbollah e alta, de\u015fi acesta e domeniul iranienilor care ar putea s\u0103 cear\u0103 ei autoritatea oric\u0103rei opera\u0163iuni.<\/p>\n<p>Nu ne hazard\u0103m \u00een a da alte variante, de\u015fi am putea s\u0103 mai scornim c\u00e2teva idei. \u00cen schimb, enumer\u0103m ce atribute va avea r\u0103spunsul care, din p\u0103cate, va duce la o nou\u0103 escaladare:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>impact \u2013 va fi un r\u0103spuns de impact, care va face breaking news; e chestiune de orgoliu rusesc;<\/li>\n<li>modera\u0163ie \u2013 nu va fi un atac direct asupra SUA sau a altor alia\u0163i: va fi un atac indirect, dar asupra SUA, deoarece \u015fi SUA a ac\u0163ionat direct asupra Rusiei, nu asupra alia\u0163ilor Rusiei<\/li>\n<li>promptitudine: spre deosebire de alte d\u0103\u0163i, r\u0103spunsul ru\u015filor la acest atac a fost rapid &#8211; anume, at\u00e2t ambasadoarea SUA, c\u00e2t \u015fi declara\u0163iile lui Peskov, au venit imediat; Medvedev a ofensat direct SUA; \u015fi r\u0103spunsul va fi mult mai prompt ca alt\u0103 dat\u0103<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>Recurs la istoric<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u015etim c\u0103 Rusia este r\u0103zbun\u0103toare, dar c\u0103 ac\u0163ioneaz\u0103 \u00eencet, calculat, cu amploare \u015fi f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 se hazardeze deloc. Dup\u0103 ce ucrainenii au avut acea tentativ\u0103 de incursiune \u00een Belgorod, ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat? \u00centr-o prim\u0103 etap\u0103, ru\u015fii i-au executat pe to\u0163i, apoi au avansat cam 10 km prin cele dou\u0103 loca\u0163ii unde, anterior, ucrainienii avansaser\u0103. A durat ceva timp, dar ru\u015fii au dat un r\u0103spuns.<\/p>\n<p>Anume, ini\u0163ial ucrainienii au \u00eencercat o penetrare aici:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img  title=\"RoExit\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-26994\" src=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/before.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/before.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/before-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/before-768x432.jpg 768w\"  alt=\"before R\u0103spunsul Rusiei la atacul cu ATACMS din Sevastopol. Opinia lui Chiazna\"  width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>Ulterior, ru\u015fii au f\u0103cut cleanup \u015fi au mai avansat ni\u0163el \u2026<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img  title=\"RoExit\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-26995\" src=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-25-001759.png\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 849px) 100vw, 849px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-25-001759.png 849w, https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-25-001759-300x141.png 300w, https:\/\/chiazna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-25-001759-768x360.png 768w\"  alt=\"Screenshot-2024-06-25-001759 R\u0103spunsul Rusiei la atacul cu ATACMS din Sevastopol. Opinia lui Chiazna\"  width=\"849\" height=\"398\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>Avansul e prin dou\u0103 direc\u0163ii, \u00een plus, tot \u00een nord, au amenin\u0163at Harkov-ul, pe care \u00eel bombardeaz\u0103 zilnic.<\/p>\n<p>Avansurile continu\u0103 pe celelalte direc\u0163ii ale frontului, dar, de unde aici era teritoriul ucrainean \u015fi nu prezenta interes pentru ru\u015fi, deoarece ucrainienii au for\u0163at \u015fi pe aici un atac, r\u0103spunsul ru\u015filor a venit. Nu doar c\u0103 au neutralizat toate trupele atacante \u015fi au f\u0103cut m\u0103cel, dar au avansat \u015fi mai mult linia anterioar\u0103 \u015fi, probabil, aceste teritorii vor fi \u015fi ele pierdute.<\/p>\n<p>E adev\u0103rat c\u0103 \u00eempotriva americanilor e mai greu de r\u0103spuns. Dar de ce? Totul \u0163ine de calcule. Singura dilem\u0103 a ru\u015filor este ce atac pot s\u0103 fac\u0103 pentru a nu stimula nuclearele mai mult, dar a da o lovitur\u0103 puternic\u0103 americanilor. La c\u00e2te baze au americanii, au de ce s\u0103 se team\u0103. Nu cred, repet, c\u0103 loviturile vor fi asupra proxy-urilor, deci deocamdat\u0103 putem sta lini\u015fti\u0163i. Nu \u00eens\u0103 \u015fi solda\u0163ii americani din zonelr de risc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Precedent<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Este prima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd ru\u015fii recunosc pe fa\u0163\u0103 c\u0103 vor colabora cu du\u015fmani ai SUA pentru a da lovituri SUA. Chiar dac\u0103 Putin a fost \u00een vizit\u0103 la koreeni \u015fi \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 arate c\u0103 pot pune probleme Imperiului pe alocuri, cred c\u0103 lupta prin proxy-uri abia \u00eencepe. De departe, principalul asset al ru\u015filor este Assad, unde cred c\u0103 ru\u015fii au deja nenum\u0103rate arme \u015fi rachete stocate \u015fi pot lovi din scurt fie portavioane, fie alte baze americane din zon\u0103. Va fi o var\u0103 fierbinte, sper\u0103m c\u0103 nu \u00eenc\u0103 din cauza nuclearelor.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un articol publicat de G. Chiazna ini\u021bial pe Chiazna.ro Rusia acuz\u0103 deja oficial SUA pentru atac. Ru\u015fii au chemat-o pe ambasadoare \u015fi au asigurat-o c\u0103 va urma un r\u0103spuns al acestui atac. R\u0103spuns \u00eempotriva SUA. Dar sta\u0163i calmi, \u00eenc\u0103 nu vor da cu nucleare. Din articolul referit mai sus, putem extrage din comunicatul ru\u015filor c\u0103 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":2304,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[270,32,4],"tags":[1708,310,804,2069,1056,1155,549,196,189,1899,2397,427,100,1036,1878,1188,207,1783,972,2061,967,1247,105,2053,143,2396,2395,752,102,2393,214,834],"class_list":["post-2302","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-externe","category-opinii","category-stil_de_viata","tag-chiazna","tag-chiazna-ro","tag-complexul-militar-industrial","tag-coreea-de-sud","tag-dimitri-medvedev","tag-dimitri-peskov","tag-donald-trump","tag-gigel-chiazna","tag-harkov","tag-hezbollah","tag-incendii-provocate","tag-iran","tag-joe-biden","tag-kremlin","tag-orasul-rus-belgorod-atacat-de-ucraineni","tag-pace-in-ucraina","tag-polonia","tag-razboi-asimetric","tag-razboi-nuclear","tag-razboi-palestina","tag-razboi-proxy","tag-razboi-sua-rusia","tag-razboi-ucraina","tag-rebelii-houthi","tag-romania","tag-scotia","tag-seul","tag-siria","tag-sua","tag-terorism-de-stat","tag-vladimir-putin","tag-yemen"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>R\u0103spunsul Rusiei la atacul cu ATACMS din Sevastopol. 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